We're wondering what our Flockstar community's top 10 issues or concerns are. They can be about anything: bugs, marketing, community, the company, whatever. We will tally up the results and share with the entire company. This is part of our ongoing effort to get closer to you, listen to your feedback and act on it.
I'm going to avoid responding to questions individually until after the weekend so that my responses don't skew the feedback.
October 6, 2006 - 3:15pm — Ryan Wagner (not verified)
I don't think I really have any concerns because you are all constantly working hard to make Flock great. I would say the most important thing for me right now would be basing Flock off of Firefox 2 but I know that you are already working on that. There are just a few features that I really like from Firefox 2 that prevent me from using Flock as my primary browser.
Other than that just keep fine tuning the features that you already have in Flock so that you'll attract the power users as well. I wouldn't mind seeing some more configurability in the News Reader also. If you give people options and choices they will fall in love with you. :)
Not exactly a bug, more like a feature. While using livesearch, when i click on a result, it opens in the tab that i'm in. I would like to be able to open more than one result and in different tabs. I try to hold CTRL (to get a new tab) or shift while clicking, but that doesn't work.
It would be a nice new feature. In my simple opinion.
October 6, 2006 - 3:35pm — Josh Wilkins (not verified)
1- VERY SLOW DEVELOPMENT
2- Unfocused Development
3- Flock team things they are developing for mainstream general user but they really are only developing for people far on the long tail.
4- Firefox is better and more flexible the flock
5- Plugins make Flock look pointless
6- Flock is now a web20 joke
7- Moving to slow on ideas that Flock made revolutionary that are now common.
9- Flock Needs new killer app features
10- Development too slow to keep up with the changing web
While I'm not quite as unhappy as Josh seems to be, there are a few huge issues that simply keep me from returning to Flock anytime soon, and they become especially apparent with all of the other excellent browsers out there. The two biggest issues are the slowness of the navigation and the overall slowness/sluggishness of the program (long loading time, inability to speedily handle picture bar/blog editor, etc.) For these reasons alone, I've switched over to OmniWeb, which, while unfortunately and most definitely not free and devoid of some great Flockoid features, is incredibly fast all-around, convenient to use, and nice-looking to boot.
It does sadden me greatly that I've had to switch to three(!) new programs instead of using only Flock, but hopefully some of the issues get worked out soon!
October 6, 2006 - 4:31pm — Josh WIlkins (not verified)
Give newshutch.com a try. It's an online feedreader that is a totally different experience then the setup of the other online RSS sites. Also is omniweb worth losing Firefox plugins which you can add sage rss reader (perfect & free) and Preformancing (also free) for blog entries?
1) I would like to see a much more robust blogging tool. I have used Live Writter Beta (gasp a MS product) and have been very happy with how it works. I would like to see something like this in flock. This is btw the biggest feature I would like to see, along with better blogger beta support in all blog software everywhere.
2) Overall I think flock can be tuned and tweaked to perform a little faster. The memory leaks never bothered me because I run with 2 gigs on a windows system, and I can throw ram at flock all day long and have more to spare. The feature that slows down the most on me is the news reader. I keep about 160 feeds in there and it can get sluggish sometimes.
Other than those two minor things which are probably already in devolpement, I love flock. If flock was a woman my girlfriend would be jealous that I spent more time with flock than with her.
I love playing with extensions. It is very unfortunate that Firefox extensions do not work in Flock without modification.
In addition, the Flock extensions that are available do not self update like they do in Firefox. Scrapbook in Firefox is up to 1.2.06. It is still on 1.05 in Flock.
October 6, 2006 - 8:25pm — Omar Upegui R. (not verified)
My biggest complaint is the simplicity of its blogging editor. It lacks the bells and whistles of other text editors such as and Deep Sender, Performancing and BlogCharm.
If Flock would beef up its text editor to include serious writer's tools it would be perfect. For example, it badly needs text alignment features. Centering text and images is quite cumbersome.
Other than that, Flocks is my preferred networking social browser.
Not enough, really, we need more quality buttons and merchandise..
some GLOBAL contest in flock would be cool, for stickers and t-shirts
2.-Better Favorites Management
a in tab integration with the servces will be the great choice to follow.
3.-Better Native Bookmarking
i would like it more if Flock could handle bookmarks in a tab that shows the bookmarks in the same way that flock readers show the saved articles.
4.-Flock Reader Upgrade
A)OPML importing
B)new items counter always visible
C)Better drag and drop
D)Expanding/collapse option for viewed items
F)better flock reader loads and management (i have 3000+ feeds)
5.-Extension Gallery Upgrade.
It is great to know that the extensions in the Flock Gallery will work great from the let go, there must be a someone in charge of it, so auto-update can be added to those extensions and more extension can be added sooner.
I propose a extension suggestion box, so every week the 3 most wished extensions gets converted to flock.
Flock reaching the extension creators so that they consider making flock versions too.
6.-Theme Gallery
Where is it???
7.-Better Flock.com
As robert scoble said to google, video tutorials are great, more when they are in flash, so why not having a "explring flock" video tutorials showing why flock is not just Firefox with another name.
(i know it is not, but explain that to the common user?, yeah, gotcha.)
Better knowledge resources for users.
8.-Better PhotoBar
I would like to see tooltips when i hover the photos, displaying the photo data and if it has a comments in that photo, it should be also displayed in such tooltip.
same request than in bookmarks a special new tab for saved photos.
9.-Better Search
A)Tooltips in the search as you type column results
B)more results, customizable, 5 as default a posible 10 and 15 as a option.
C)scrollable column
10.-Blog Editor
The blog editor is trully really disapointing.
I would like to see Flock Blog editor being as good as Live Writer, performancing and WriteToMyBlog.
This is something i would like to see as new features:
A)Widget engine
B)A Netcasting (Eff aple with their pod word snatching) Flock integration.
C)VideoBar
D)Scrollable Tab reel option (i am someone who opens 10 tabs a minimuma nd something like 30 as usal)
F)Flock Community integration into the browser (having a Flock username to use everywhere in the Flock site,forums, etc.
Well, I am not that difficult to please but there are some issues/features that I want Flock to fix/add real soon.
1. Manual refresh for feed, photos. Whilst I understand that servers appreciate clients not refreshing in intervals less than 30 minutes but sometimes, you just to hit refresh manually (specially if you have del.icio.us, digg and slashdot in your feed)
2. The Performancing plug-in seems to be the way to go (even if its editor sucks big time), the blog editor of Flock can learn from it. Also, I'd rather that blog post archiving can be toggled on or off.
3. I love the bookmarking function that integrates to del.icio.us. However, I wish that the way the bookmark bar/collection is presented is similar to the other browsers like Firefox, Safari.
4. More plug-in compatibility. I am aware of the tools that enable Firefox extensions to be converted for Flock but it should would be different if there is no need for it. :) Anyway, I do not use that many plug-ins but I like Adblock, Flashblock and FoxyProxy along with the Flock supported VideoDownloader. :)
So there - in addition to the sluggishness and memory leak that I want fixed, I hope that the four that I have mentioned above won't be that difficult to do.
October 7, 2006 - 2:34am — John Collis (not verified)
Worries:
1. Slowness (at various times) and memory usage.
2. Long running stability
3. Extensions not updating when Firefox extensions are up todate
4. Blog editor, not quite good enough
5. Reorganiseing Favourites (can't handle the imported list I have - requires some hierarchy).
Bouquets:
1. RSS reader/aggregator (really exactly what I like the most!)
2. Nice friendly General UI
3. Photo/image handling.
October 7, 2006 - 3:50am — Neil Winton (not verified)
I like Flock despite the odd glitch. However, there are 2 things I'd really like to see.
a - As mentioned above, a more fully featured Blog editor (a la M$ Livewriter)... I only use Flock every now and again for blogging. M$LW gives better control over pictures and links with many more blog providers at the moment.
b - Can you give the option of changing the built it search engine from Yahoo to Google? (I've changed the default search engine to Google, but I don't appear to be able to change the built in Search Results) As a Scottish user (ie: UK based) I use Google rather than Yahoo and much prefer it. I have to be honest, this is my only really big niggle. I do like Flock and what it's trying to do!
1- VERY SLOW DEVELOPMENT (like another user said above)
2- TOO LATE IN PUBLISH STABLE VERSION
3- Very buggy
4- Exclude to people who dont use the net like social browsing, only PERSONAL BROWSING
5- The eternal problem of awful bookmark system
6- The UI is too large please reduce windows and dialogs
7- Better blogging feature: choose font style and other parameters
9- Tabs managing: why ctrl+click to open new tab? i have to surf the web with two hands?
10- This last it is not a critic, Flock is still a fantastic browser
I get the feeling more work is being put into Flock button's, spreading the word and so on than in actually developing Flock. I realize my perception is probably wrong, but other than a few bug releases, there is very little that appears to be happening to Flock itself.
I'd like to be able to rearrange my collections by dragging already. This has taken way too long.
When I delete something from the front of my snippets it always tries to scroll to the end. This is very annoying when I have a lot of snippets, just leave it where it was.
Clearing history should clear the history results in search too.
Hopefully you're adopting the new Firefox 2.0 menus and the addons manager. I don't want to have to switch back and forth between the nice options menus there and then go back to the less intuitive menus here. I'd also like to see the anti-phishing, search, session restore, spellcheck and all new Firefox 2.0 features implemented. If you can't keep up with the browser you're based off of, forget it, I would switch back to Firefox.
Make sure you have Mac specific features and are more like Camino than Firefox on Mac.
If you're going with the web 2.0 browser approach, go big or go home. I know you're working on some MySpace or people integration which is great, but bring on YouTube and Google Video. Maybe even email and something with Meebo for the complete package, if it doesn't waste too many system resources. And I know there's that Meebo sidebar extension but you're still in development. Then I know you'd have a load of users.
October 7, 2006 - 11:25am — dominik.lukes (not verified)
Downside
1. The favorites management is abysmal!!!
2. Tab options are limited
3. Blogging tools is limited
Upside
1. Feedreader is best in class (for my needs) and the only reason I keep coming back
2. Ease of del.icio.us posting
3. Blogging tool is fast and at your fingertips
None of the other social features interest me. I also must agree that the development has been incredibly slow - it feels like I first experimented with Flock a year and a half ago.
October 7, 2006 - 11:39am — Evan Huang (not verified)
I would just say that I am not a big fan of how flock treats its bookmarks. With someone like me only have the folders only one level deeps is just not enough. Also if there is an _official_ extension/function/whatever that allows us to sync bookmarks with arbitrary servers (like ones we set up on our own) will be greatly appreciated.
I posted mine on my blog but I'll list them here too. :)
1. No Cocoa Widgets on a Mac. (This one is a wish.)
2. MacUpdate listing description is awful.
3. When a feed is loaded from the sidebar and I close the feed sidebar, I can’t visit a bookmark in the bookmark bar.
4. No RSS synchronization with Google Reader (This one is a wish.)
5. No way to submit extensions or themes to Flock.com
6. No folders in the bookmark bar.
7. The search box doesn’t allow you to change the default engine without going into the preferences.
8. No spell check as you type.
9. Can’t easily access history.
10. Extensions don’t auto update & lots of Firefox extensions don’t work.
1. "slow" development... at least make it really obvious what you have planned. Are you working on the blog feature? How about the bookmarks management?
2. Bookmarks management. One of the the reasons I am using flock is that it has made de.licio.us actually accessible to me in a way I like. BUT I hate not being able to have a side bar (like firefox) to easily view and manage my bookmarks. Plus I it is an absolute pain to categorize my bookmarks by folders!
3. customizability. I love the fact that Flock is intended to be easy to use and streamlined. But you shouldn't do this at the expense of usefulness. It's totally inexcusable that I cannot tell flock where to display the photo bar (top or bottom etc) or to have the blogging tool be a side/bottom bar instead of a pop up.
4. Blogging tool. Come on folks. This has to be the number 1 feature that would make Flock special. Blow us away. Give us unprecedented control, spell check, ease of use etc. Textedit on my Mac is actually better, the only thing it can't do is post directly to my blog.
5. supported sevices. I would really love to be able to use the photo bar to upload pictures to my own server via sftp.
6. finally, speed. It takes forever to load flock. and opening new windows takes equally forever. (G4 with 1.5 gigs of Ram)
Overall: I've been using flock as my primary browser for a couple of months now. But unless I know that there is going to be some major development I don't see why I should stick with it.
October 8, 2006 - 9:40pm — Cluster2600 (not verified)
The biggest problems i have with flock in my everyday use are:
-Memory usage of Flock
-slow unresponsive Flock
-Crash
It will be very good to improve stability instead of racing for features, but as i read something by another user that suggested that the favorites manager could have folders and look like the rss news page.
Best regards
1 - Bookmark Folders - I Need subfolders and the ability to rearrange the order of individual bookmarks in each folder, ability to add seperators too would be an advantage.
2 - Export bookmarks for use with other apps and services such as delicious etc
3 - Option to open new tab from favorites and when typing in urls (the same as pressing ALT ENTER)
4 - Complete Browser history - ie all pages viewed in the last few months not just as seen in the go menu
Still using flock here - Mainly because of the integrated blogging features and news reader.
October 9, 2006 - 9:14am — Dave Lowe (not verified)
Some encouragement: I never open Firefox, only Flock. Flock feels more part of the Mac than Firefox. Second, I always let Flock ask me if I want it to be the primary browser. I always say no but not before I think about it first.
Concerns:
Like others have said, speed of development. I have no doubt this is the most challenging, but it's also a quality that would distinguish Flock from the other browsers.
Mac-like. Like someone said, be more like Camino than Firefox. This is huge.
App speed and memory usage: kind of a given and I know you guys are always working on this one.
Improved RSS support, though I don't know how feasible it is to expect an app to be excellent at browsing and RSS. It'd be sweet though.
Just a couple of things. I'm big RSS fan, but I don't quite understand the boxes that the user can tick for oneself (new, saved, viewed). When I open a feed, all news for some reason are automatically ticked "viewed" although I haven't had the chance to view them.
What I like about the reader is that you have the possibility to choose excerpts. There are a lot of developers out there who for some reason haven't included this option. If I have 10's of feeds that I read daily and they all are updated many times a day, then surely excerpts are very helpful if I don't have time to read through every single piece of news.
One other thing which Flock lacks and almost all readers lack is the distinction between read and unread feeds and articles. E.g Feedreader leaves the titles of unread articles in bold font and read articles in normal font. So even, if at first you choose what you read than later when coming returning to the feed you can already distinguish which articles you've read. I've tried tens of RSS aggregators and until nobody comes up with a better solution I'm sticking with my Feedreader.
The biggest issue for me is the lack of support for alternative bookmarking services (particularly Ma.gnolia). del.icio.us is _such_ a poor service that I would not consider moving to it for anything, and Shadows ... well ... does anyone use Shadows?
I'd have to say my biggest concern is the bookmarking system...not being able to nest my bookmarks has driven me absolutely crazy because I am an organization freak! The tag system is very nice for searching for an old-book mark that I can't particularly remember where I put, but I'm the kind of person who puts folders upon folders of bookmarks on my Bookmarks Toolbar so that I can easily get to my favorite sites, and I am praying with all my might that ya'll put the availability to do that in with the next big update. (Pretty please? I'll back the dev team a cake.)
I'd like to see the Favorites Manager tweaked a bit so that it's more user friendly, less resource intensive, and has nesting. (Seriously, can you tell I need my nest-ed bookmarks?)
I'd also like to see the Blogging interface integrated with other features a little more (for example, making Photo-blogging easier).
I'd also like to see some more options where Social Bookmarking integration is concerned. I can think of at least 20 different Social Bookmarking services off the top of my head, and out of them, only 2 are supported by Flock. o.O del.icio.us is great and all, but not everyone is a fan. And Flock *IS* the Social Browser, no?
OH! And the sooner we can get a convertor for Firefox add-ons, the better!
And as for concern about the website....I'd REALLY like it if there were a way to log-in on other pages besides the forums, and the site could use a tad bit more organization, I think. But all-in-all, it's pretty spiffy.
Thanks for all the hard work. Hope the feedback helps.
October 19, 2006 - 5:30am — Vidal Graupera (not verified)
I think Flock is a cool product with much potential, and there are a lot of things I like. Here you asked what I don't like, so my biggest concerns are (1) incompatibility/unavailablity of certain Firefox plugins and extensions. Ideally, Flock should just work with all Firefox extensions and even import them from my Firefox install automagically; and (2) performance and instability. This for me was one of the key reasons to move from IE to Firefox, and Flock seems to have temporarily taken a step backwards in that direction.
Wow... tell 'em what you really think, Josh. A web 2.0 joke? Really? Have you even used Flock before? It's implementing about every popular social network out there... flickr, del.icio.us, blog-tools, etc...
I would love to see an auto-refresh in RSS feeds that sit in my bookmark bar... I check in on digg a lot and I always have to refresh the feed, wait a few seconds and then skim through the headlines.
Also I love the blog tool - but I don't use it much because it doesn't seem tweaked for blogger, seems as though when I'm writing and I hit enter it places a "br/" but if I delete it gets all scrambled. I've had to go back in through blogger and erase all the extra code... including the "div" info. It just made my post go crazy - but I know it's a work in progress and I look forward to new changes with the blog-tool. Speaking of going back in through blogger, it would be great to see a recent post with-in the tool, for easy access to editing your post that you published two days ago.
The 'star/add-to-del.icio.us' bookmark is great! One thing I would love to see added as "popular tags" - I think it's an important part of link-sharing to know what other people are tagging it with and therefor searching for.
Oh! I just thought of something else. It would be amazing to somehow mesh tags for your own blog-post with technorati tags... kind of how the 'star' feature works, two birds with one click.
Oh! I just thought of something else. It would be amazing to somehow mesh tags for your own blog-post with technorati tags... kind of how the 'star' feature works, two birds with one click.
October 19, 2006 - 10:27pm — Cédric Néhémie (not verified)
1 - Memory consumption (after 3 hours of browsing Flock take more than 340 Mo in RAM)
2 - Bookmarks manager : Only one folder level is a bit small isn't it ?
3 - Photobar Drag&Drop would more customizable (chossing output format of the D&D will be great, to avoid using it in wiki or blog)
4 - News reader is too slow (to display or to refresh, my netvibes is in advance of 2mn against flock) but is really clean and usefull, keep it :)
5 - Image in feed reader is arbitrary resized, having an option to display image at real size (so far as possible) would be great
6 - It's not a big issue but an option to block script witch want to resize the window would be great (i hate popup and resizing scripts as well)
Keep up the good work, Flock is the 21th century Browser :)
Very slow to launch. Also very slow to open a new window. That is definitely my biggest issue w/Flock right now. It's not just a bit slow. It's incredibly slow to launch compared to any other browser I use (Safari, Camino, IE, iCab...). While all the Mozilla-based browsers are a bit slow to start up on Macs, Flock is an order of magnitude slower than the others.
As others have said, the blog editor could still use a bit of work.
del.icio.us bookmarking needs work too. I get asked my user name/password two or three times when trying to add a bookmark. After I was already asked when Flock started up.
Would also be nice to have a list of your current tags when adding a bookmark to del.icio.us as there is if doing so directly thru del.icio.us' site.
Keep up the good work though! I still think it's quite possible Flock will eventually become my default browser.
The slow speed of opening new windows is the only real gripe that prevents Flock from being my default browser right now. Opening windows is such an integral part of the browsing experience; each one is taking 6 or 7 seconds to open right now, and it becomes a little frustrating...
One thing that does help is checking the box that says "force links that open new windows to open in a new tab" in tabs preferences, but this only helps a small proportion of new windows...
October 20, 2006 - 10:16am — Holli Buck (not verified)
I love this browser madly and I abandoned ship from FireFox to come here. I do have one issue in particular that drives me insane: BOOKMARKS.
There is no rhyme nor reason when it comes to cataloguing things. in Firefox, I could have a folder called Personal, and within that three other folders that each contained bookmarks. But in Flock, there is no folder hierarchy, which makes for some very messy organizing of links.
Also, when I enter a password and click to remember it, Flock won't always remember it. The user name, yes. But I always haev to retype in the password - which sort of defeats the purpose of the 'always remember' feature.
And just because three is such a nice, round number -- A journal tool like Deep Sender would be exquisite. I loved that as well as a number of the extensions, but after losing my bookmarks three times in FF, I had to switch. I still do miss some of their features, though.
Bottom line: LOVE this browser and I'm so glad that you came into my life. Keep up the great work!
Most of this falls into the sad "me too" set of comments, but it seemed like it would be worth it to really try to nudge you folks in the direction I want you nudged.
Basically it boils down to two things:
I love the display features of the RSS client and (like dominik) it's the main reason I keep banging my head against Flock. I do agree that the user-checkable boxes are a little wonky, but my big problem is that I'm such a feed junky that I must totally choke Flock when I open the newsreader up. Usually at least half my feeds don't show updates newer than a week, and there's no way to manually check feeds.
I'll also join the chorus of people who'd just like a clearer idea of what's up and coming in development (and maybe even some timelines, even if they aren't as soon as we might like-- we're demanding for people signing up for a freebie).
In a somewhat distant third place is the blogging tool, because I pretty much assume that the market isn't there for trying to tie in the "friends only" posting level that keeps me at LiveJournal. I just want to make my (former) employers and (current) clients have to work at it if they want to find out how much I complain about them.
Things I would like to see in Flock:
- a French version
- possibilité of sub-folder to organize my favorites, especially in the toolbar (Firefox allows it). Only one folder level sucks...
- RSS feed for the extension gallery.
so I can be informed as new extensions are uploaded.
- Names of tab that haven't been viewed yet in italic or different color (like in Tab Mix Plus for Firefox)
- more stability: browser crashes, is slow or unresponsive most of the time...
- html in snippets
I don't think I really have any concerns because you are all constantly working hard to make Flock great. I would say the most important thing for me right now would be basing Flock off of Firefox 2 but I know that you are already working on that. There are just a few features that I really like from Firefox 2 that prevent me from using Flock as my primary browser.
Other than that just keep fine tuning the features that you already have in Flock so that you'll attract the power users as well. I wouldn't mind seeing some more configurability in the News Reader also. If you give people options and choices they will fall in love with you. :)
Not exactly a bug, more like a feature. While using livesearch, when i click on a result, it opens in the tab that i'm in. I would like to be able to open more than one result and in different tabs. I try to hold CTRL (to get a new tab) or shift while clicking, but that doesn't work.
It would be a nice new feature. In my simple opinion.
By the way, flock is the coolest browser. :D
1- VERY SLOW DEVELOPMENT
2- Unfocused Development
3- Flock team things they are developing for mainstream general user but they really are only developing for people far on the long tail.
4- Firefox is better and more flexible the flock
5- Plugins make Flock look pointless
6- Flock is now a web20 joke
7- Moving to slow on ideas that Flock made revolutionary that are now common.
9- Flock Needs new killer app features
10- Development too slow to keep up with the changing web
While I'm not quite as unhappy as Josh seems to be, there are a few huge issues that simply keep me from returning to Flock anytime soon, and they become especially apparent with all of the other excellent browsers out there. The two biggest issues are the slowness of the navigation and the overall slowness/sluggishness of the program (long loading time, inability to speedily handle picture bar/blog editor, etc.) For these reasons alone, I've switched over to OmniWeb, which, while unfortunately and most definitely not free and devoid of some great Flockoid features, is incredibly fast all-around, convenient to use, and nice-looking to boot.
It does sadden me greatly that I've had to switch to three(!) new programs instead of using only Flock, but hopefully some of the issues get worked out soon!
Give newshutch.com a try. It's an online feedreader that is a totally different experience then the setup of the other online RSS sites. Also is omniweb worth losing Firefox plugins which you can add sage rss reader (perfect & free) and Preformancing (also free) for blog entries?
Personally the two biggest things for me are:
1) I would like to see a much more robust blogging tool. I have used Live Writter Beta (gasp a MS product) and have been very happy with how it works. I would like to see something like this in flock. This is btw the biggest feature I would like to see, along with better blogger beta support in all blog software everywhere.
2) Overall I think flock can be tuned and tweaked to perform a little faster. The memory leaks never bothered me because I run with 2 gigs on a windows system, and I can throw ram at flock all day long and have more to spare. The feature that slows down the most on me is the news reader. I keep about 160 feeds in there and it can get sluggish sometimes.
Other than those two minor things which are probably already in devolpement, I love flock. If flock was a woman my girlfriend would be jealous that I spent more time with flock than with her.
I love playing with extensions. It is very unfortunate that Firefox extensions do not work in Flock without modification.
In addition, the Flock extensions that are available do not self update like they do in Firefox. Scrapbook in Firefox is up to 1.2.06. It is still on 1.05 in Flock.
Tony
My biggest complaint is the simplicity of its blogging editor. It lacks the bells and whistles of other text editors such as and Deep Sender, Performancing and BlogCharm.
If Flock would beef up its text editor to include serious writer's tools it would be perfect. For example, it badly needs text alignment features. Centering text and images is quite cumbersome.
Other than that, Flocks is my preferred networking social browser.
Cheers,
Omar.-
Well, i will make a rundown of them:
1.-Branding
Not enough, really, we need more quality buttons and merchandise..
some GLOBAL contest in flock would be cool, for stickers and t-shirts
2.-Better Favorites Management
a in tab integration with the servces will be the great choice to follow.
3.-Better Native Bookmarking
i would like it more if Flock could handle bookmarks in a tab that shows the bookmarks in the same way that flock readers show the saved articles.
4.-Flock Reader Upgrade
A)OPML importing
B)new items counter always visible
C)Better drag and drop
D)Expanding/collapse option for viewed items
F)better flock reader loads and management (i have 3000+ feeds)
5.-Extension Gallery Upgrade.
It is great to know that the extensions in the Flock Gallery will work great from the let go, there must be a someone in charge of it, so auto-update can be added to those extensions and more extension can be added sooner.
I propose a extension suggestion box, so every week the 3 most wished extensions gets converted to flock.
Flock reaching the extension creators so that they consider making flock versions too.
6.-Theme Gallery
Where is it???
7.-Better Flock.com
As robert scoble said to google, video tutorials are great, more when they are in flash, so why not having a "explring flock" video tutorials showing why flock is not just Firefox with another name.
(i know it is not, but explain that to the common user?, yeah, gotcha.)
Better knowledge resources for users.
8.-Better PhotoBar
I would like to see tooltips when i hover the photos, displaying the photo data and if it has a comments in that photo, it should be also displayed in such tooltip.
same request than in bookmarks a special new tab for saved photos.
9.-Better Search
A)Tooltips in the search as you type column results
B)more results, customizable, 5 as default a posible 10 and 15 as a option.
C)scrollable column
10.-Blog Editor
The blog editor is trully really disapointing.
I would like to see Flock Blog editor being as good as Live Writer, performancing and WriteToMyBlog.
This is something i would like to see as new features:
A)Widget engine
B)A Netcasting (Eff aple with their pod word snatching) Flock integration.
C)VideoBar
D)Scrollable Tab reel option (i am someone who opens 10 tabs a minimuma nd something like 30 as usal)
F)Flock Community integration into the browser (having a Flock username to use everywhere in the Flock site,forums, etc.
1. Get blog feature working with blogger.com again.. (I grew accustomed to it.. ;))
2. Fix the search functionality - so the field it auto seleced onFocus so I can easily delete the old query,,,,
Keep up the good work !
/mich
Well, I am not that difficult to please but there are some issues/features that I want Flock to fix/add real soon.
1. Manual refresh for feed, photos. Whilst I understand that servers appreciate clients not refreshing in intervals less than 30 minutes but sometimes, you just to hit refresh manually (specially if you have del.icio.us, digg and slashdot in your feed)
2. The Performancing plug-in seems to be the way to go (even if its editor sucks big time), the blog editor of Flock can learn from it. Also, I'd rather that blog post archiving can be toggled on or off.
3. I love the bookmarking function that integrates to del.icio.us. However, I wish that the way the bookmark bar/collection is presented is similar to the other browsers like Firefox, Safari.
4. More plug-in compatibility. I am aware of the tools that enable Firefox extensions to be converted for Flock but it should would be different if there is no need for it. :) Anyway, I do not use that many plug-ins but I like Adblock, Flashblock and FoxyProxy along with the Flock supported VideoDownloader. :)
So there - in addition to the sluggishness and memory leak that I want fixed, I hope that the four that I have mentioned above won't be that difficult to do.
Worries:
1. Slowness (at various times) and memory usage.
2. Long running stability
3. Extensions not updating when Firefox extensions are up todate
4. Blog editor, not quite good enough
5. Reorganiseing Favourites (can't handle the imported list I have - requires some hierarchy).
Bouquets:
1. RSS reader/aggregator (really exactly what I like the most!)
2. Nice friendly General UI
3. Photo/image handling.
I like Flock despite the odd glitch. However, there are 2 things I'd really like to see.
a - As mentioned above, a more fully featured Blog editor (a la M$ Livewriter)... I only use Flock every now and again for blogging. M$LW gives better control over pictures and links with many more blog providers at the moment.
b - Can you give the option of changing the built it search engine from Yahoo to Google? (I've changed the default search engine to Google, but I don't appear to be able to change the built in Search Results) As a Scottish user (ie: UK based) I use Google rather than Yahoo and much prefer it. I have to be honest, this is my only really big niggle. I do like Flock and what it's trying to do!
Thanks!
1- VERY SLOW DEVELOPMENT (like another user said above)
2- TOO LATE IN PUBLISH STABLE VERSION
3- Very buggy
4- Exclude to people who dont use the net like social browsing, only PERSONAL BROWSING
5- The eternal problem of awful bookmark system
6- The UI is too large please reduce windows and dialogs
7- Better blogging feature: choose font style and other parameters
9- Tabs managing: why ctrl+click to open new tab? i have to surf the web with two hands?
10- This last it is not a critic, Flock is still a fantastic browser
I get the feeling more work is being put into Flock button's, spreading the word and so on than in actually developing Flock. I realize my perception is probably wrong, but other than a few bug releases, there is very little that appears to be happening to Flock itself.
Tony
I'd like to be able to rearrange my collections by dragging already. This has taken way too long.
When I delete something from the front of my snippets it always tries to scroll to the end. This is very annoying when I have a lot of snippets, just leave it where it was.
Clearing history should clear the history results in search too.
Hopefully you're adopting the new Firefox 2.0 menus and the addons manager. I don't want to have to switch back and forth between the nice options menus there and then go back to the less intuitive menus here. I'd also like to see the anti-phishing, search, session restore, spellcheck and all new Firefox 2.0 features implemented. If you can't keep up with the browser you're based off of, forget it, I would switch back to Firefox.
Make sure you have Mac specific features and are more like Camino than Firefox on Mac.
If you're going with the web 2.0 browser approach, go big or go home. I know you're working on some MySpace or people integration which is great, but bring on YouTube and Google Video. Maybe even email and something with Meebo for the complete package, if it doesn't waste too many system resources. And I know there's that Meebo sidebar extension but you're still in development. Then I know you'd have a load of users.
Downside
1. The favorites management is abysmal!!!
2. Tab options are limited
3. Blogging tools is limited
Upside
1. Feedreader is best in class (for my needs) and the only reason I keep coming back
2. Ease of del.icio.us posting
3. Blogging tool is fast and at your fingertips
None of the other social features interest me. I also must agree that the development has been incredibly slow - it feels like I first experimented with Flock a year and a half ago.
I would just say that I am not a big fan of how flock treats its bookmarks. With someone like me only have the folders only one level deeps is just not enough. Also if there is an _official_ extension/function/whatever that allows us to sync bookmarks with arbitrary servers (like ones we set up on our own) will be greatly appreciated.
I posted mine on my blog but I'll list them here too. :)
1. No Cocoa Widgets on a Mac. (This one is a wish.)
2. MacUpdate listing description is awful.
3. When a feed is loaded from the sidebar and I close the feed sidebar, I can’t visit a bookmark in the bookmark bar.
4. No RSS synchronization with Google Reader (This one is a wish.)
5. No way to submit extensions or themes to Flock.com
6. No folders in the bookmark bar.
7. The search box doesn’t allow you to change the default engine without going into the preferences.
8. No spell check as you type.
9. Can’t easily access history.
10. Extensions don’t auto update & lots of Firefox extensions don’t work.
I'll add my vote to a few things listed above.
1. "slow" development... at least make it really obvious what you have planned. Are you working on the blog feature? How about the bookmarks management?
2. Bookmarks management. One of the the reasons I am using flock is that it has made de.licio.us actually accessible to me in a way I like. BUT I hate not being able to have a side bar (like firefox) to easily view and manage my bookmarks. Plus I it is an absolute pain to categorize my bookmarks by folders!
3. customizability. I love the fact that Flock is intended to be easy to use and streamlined. But you shouldn't do this at the expense of usefulness. It's totally inexcusable that I cannot tell flock where to display the photo bar (top or bottom etc) or to have the blogging tool be a side/bottom bar instead of a pop up.
4. Blogging tool. Come on folks. This has to be the number 1 feature that would make Flock special. Blow us away. Give us unprecedented control, spell check, ease of use etc. Textedit on my Mac is actually better, the only thing it can't do is post directly to my blog.
5. supported sevices. I would really love to be able to use the photo bar to upload pictures to my own server via sftp.
6. finally, speed. It takes forever to load flock. and opening new windows takes equally forever. (G4 with 1.5 gigs of Ram)
Overall: I've been using flock as my primary browser for a couple of months now. But unless I know that there is going to be some major development I don't see why I should stick with it.
I really like the browser, there is something I don't like about it. There is no full screen feature. So it would be nice if you think about
it.
Thanks
I only got two:
1. Firefox 2.0
2. Compatibility with Firefox extensions (doesn't work very well, if at all).
The biggest problems i have with flock in my everyday use are:
-Memory usage of Flock
-slow unresponsive Flock
-Crash
It will be very good to improve stability instead of racing for features, but as i read something by another user that suggested that the favorites manager could have folders and look like the rss news page.
Best regards
Why is the star and tag this page modal ?
It's impossible to copy text from the page you're bookmarking in the tagging form.
It would also be great to have tags suggestions.
Best regards
1 - Bookmark Folders - I Need subfolders and the ability to rearrange the order of individual bookmarks in each folder, ability to add seperators too would be an advantage.
2 - Export bookmarks for use with other apps and services such as delicious etc
3 - Option to open new tab from favorites and when typing in urls (the same as pressing ALT ENTER)
4 - Complete Browser history - ie all pages viewed in the last few months not just as seen in the go menu
Still using flock here - Mainly because of the integrated blogging features and news reader.
Some encouragement: I never open Firefox, only Flock. Flock feels more part of the Mac than Firefox. Second, I always let Flock ask me if I want it to be the primary browser. I always say no but not before I think about it first.
Concerns:
Get that shelf feature back
Shortly; it crashes ALOT =_________=
Just a couple of things. I'm big RSS fan, but I don't quite understand the boxes that the user can tick for oneself (new, saved, viewed). When I open a feed, all news for some reason are automatically ticked "viewed" although I haven't had the chance to view them.
What I like about the reader is that you have the possibility to choose excerpts. There are a lot of developers out there who for some reason haven't included this option. If I have 10's of feeds that I read daily and they all are updated many times a day, then surely excerpts are very helpful if I don't have time to read through every single piece of news.
One other thing which Flock lacks and almost all readers lack is the distinction between read and unread feeds and articles. E.g Feedreader leaves the titles of unread articles in bold font and read articles in normal font. So even, if at first you choose what you read than later when coming returning to the feed you can already distinguish which articles you've read. I've tried tens of RSS aggregators and until nobody comes up with a better solution I'm sticking with my Feedreader.
The biggest issue for me is the lack of support for alternative bookmarking services (particularly Ma.gnolia). del.icio.us is _such_ a poor service that I would not consider moving to it for anything, and Shadows ... well ... does anyone use Shadows?
I'd have to say my biggest concern is the bookmarking system...not being able to nest my bookmarks has driven me absolutely crazy because I am an organization freak! The tag system is very nice for searching for an old-book mark that I can't particularly remember where I put, but I'm the kind of person who puts folders upon folders of bookmarks on my Bookmarks Toolbar so that I can easily get to my favorite sites, and I am praying with all my might that ya'll put the availability to do that in with the next big update. (Pretty please? I'll back the dev team a cake.)
I'd like to see the Favorites Manager tweaked a bit so that it's more user friendly, less resource intensive, and has nesting. (Seriously, can you tell I need my nest-ed bookmarks?)
I'd also like to see the Blogging interface integrated with other features a little more (for example, making Photo-blogging easier).
I'd also like to see some more options where Social Bookmarking integration is concerned. I can think of at least 20 different Social Bookmarking services off the top of my head, and out of them, only 2 are supported by Flock. o.O del.icio.us is great and all, but not everyone is a fan. And Flock *IS* the Social Browser, no?
OH! And the sooner we can get a convertor for Firefox add-ons, the better!
And as for concern about the website....I'd REALLY like it if there were a way to log-in on other pages besides the forums, and the site could use a tad bit more organization, I think. But all-in-all, it's pretty spiffy.
Thanks for all the hard work. Hope the feedback helps.
I think Flock is a cool product with much potential, and there are a lot of things I like. Here you asked what I don't like, so my biggest concerns are (1) incompatibility/unavailablity of certain Firefox plugins and extensions. Ideally, Flock should just work with all Firefox extensions and even import them from my Firefox install automagically; and (2) performance and instability. This for me was one of the key reasons to move from IE to Firefox, and Flock seems to have temporarily taken a step backwards in that direction.
Wow... tell 'em what you really think, Josh. A web 2.0 joke? Really? Have you even used Flock before? It's implementing about every popular social network out there... flickr, del.icio.us, blog-tools, etc...
I think you're just being a jerk.
I would love to see an auto-refresh in RSS feeds that sit in my bookmark bar... I check in on digg a lot and I always have to refresh the feed, wait a few seconds and then skim through the headlines.
Also I love the blog tool - but I don't use it much because it doesn't seem tweaked for blogger, seems as though when I'm writing and I hit enter it places a "br/" but if I delete it gets all scrambled. I've had to go back in through blogger and erase all the extra code... including the "div" info. It just made my post go crazy - but I know it's a work in progress and I look forward to new changes with the blog-tool. Speaking of going back in through blogger, it would be great to see a recent post with-in the tool, for easy access to editing your post that you published two days ago.
The 'star/add-to-del.icio.us' bookmark is great! One thing I would love to see added as "popular tags" - I think it's an important part of link-sharing to know what other people are tagging it with and therefor searching for.
Keep up the great, great work!
Oh! I just thought of something else. It would be amazing to somehow mesh tags for your own blog-post with technorati tags... kind of how the 'star' feature works, two birds with one click.
Oh! I just thought of something else. It would be amazing to somehow mesh tags for your own blog-post with technorati tags... kind of how the 'star' feature works, two birds with one click.
1 - Memory consumption (after 3 hours of browsing Flock take more than 340 Mo in RAM)
2 - Bookmarks manager : Only one folder level is a bit small isn't it ?
3 - Photobar Drag&Drop would more customizable (chossing output format of the D&D will be great, to avoid using it in wiki or blog)
4 - News reader is too slow (to display or to refresh, my netvibes is in advance of 2mn against flock) but is really clean and usefull, keep it :)
5 - Image in feed reader is arbitrary resized, having an option to display image at real size (so far as possible) would be great
6 - It's not a big issue but an option to block script witch want to resize the window would be great (i hate popup and resizing scripts as well)
Keep up the good work, Flock is the 21th century Browser :)
Very slow to launch. Also very slow to open a new window. That is definitely my biggest issue w/Flock right now. It's not just a bit slow. It's incredibly slow to launch compared to any other browser I use (Safari, Camino, IE, iCab...). While all the Mozilla-based browsers are a bit slow to start up on Macs, Flock is an order of magnitude slower than the others.
As others have said, the blog editor could still use a bit of work.
del.icio.us bookmarking needs work too. I get asked my user name/password two or three times when trying to add a bookmark. After I was already asked when Flock started up.
Would also be nice to have a list of your current tags when adding a bookmark to del.icio.us as there is if doing so directly thru del.icio.us' site.
Keep up the good work though! I still think it's quite possible Flock will eventually become my default browser.
The slow speed of opening new windows is the only real gripe that prevents Flock from being my default browser right now. Opening windows is such an integral part of the browsing experience; each one is taking 6 or 7 seconds to open right now, and it becomes a little frustrating...
One thing that does help is checking the box that says "force links that open new windows to open in a new tab" in tabs preferences, but this only helps a small proportion of new windows...
Other than that, great job!
I love this browser madly and I abandoned ship from FireFox to come here. I do have one issue in particular that drives me insane: BOOKMARKS.
There is no rhyme nor reason when it comes to cataloguing things. in Firefox, I could have a folder called Personal, and within that three other folders that each contained bookmarks. But in Flock, there is no folder hierarchy, which makes for some very messy organizing of links.
Also, when I enter a password and click to remember it, Flock won't always remember it. The user name, yes. But I always haev to retype in the password - which sort of defeats the purpose of the 'always remember' feature.
And just because three is such a nice, round number -- A journal tool like Deep Sender would be exquisite. I loved that as well as a number of the extensions, but after losing my bookmarks three times in FF, I had to switch. I still do miss some of their features, though.
Bottom line: LOVE this browser and I'm so glad that you came into my life. Keep up the great work!
Holli
Hell, how come you can't edit the location, either?
It's impossible to correct old bookmarks.
Most of this falls into the sad "me too" set of comments, but it seemed like it would be worth it to really try to nudge you folks in the direction I want you nudged.
Basically it boils down to two things:
I love the display features of the RSS client and (like dominik) it's the main reason I keep banging my head against Flock. I do agree that the user-checkable boxes are a little wonky, but my big problem is that I'm such a feed junky that I must totally choke Flock when I open the newsreader up. Usually at least half my feeds don't show updates newer than a week, and there's no way to manually check feeds.
I'll also join the chorus of people who'd just like a clearer idea of what's up and coming in development (and maybe even some timelines, even if they aren't as soon as we might like-- we're demanding for people signing up for a freebie).
In a somewhat distant third place is the blogging tool, because I pretty much assume that the market isn't there for trying to tie in the "friends only" posting level that keeps me at LiveJournal. I just want to make my (former) employers and (current) clients have to work at it if they want to find out how much I complain about them.
Flock eats up too much of RAM. Even normal usage is above 100 MB! Thats my prime concern
Things I would like to see in Flock:
- a French version
- possibilité of sub-folder to organize my favorites, especially in the toolbar (Firefox allows it). Only one folder level sucks...
- RSS feed for the extension gallery.
so I can be informed as new extensions are uploaded.
- Names of tab that haven't been viewed yet in italic or different color (like in Tab Mix Plus for Firefox)
- more stability: browser crashes, is slow or unresponsive most of the time...
- html in snippets
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