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I've been wanting to ask this but it seems confrontational to do so. I've held off for that reason but I still feel the need so I guess I might as well:
What does Flock offer that a bunch of well written add-ons for Firefox wouldn't do?
Why dailymotion is not incorporated to media-bar, or gmail?
will have a spanish version in 1.0 flock? People in spain don't use flock because there isn't a spanish translation.
Thanks for all your job
Flock supports an assortment of online services like Flickr, Photobucket and so on. At the moment, it seems they are hardcoded into the application.
But there is a multitude of other services that have no chance to end up in Flock normal way because - for example - they are just a copy of Flickr remade into some obscure national language and setting.
So, is there a chance that Flock's services will be converted into plugins and the plugin API will be released so that independent programmers would incorporate those obscure services into Flock's interface at defined 'mount points'? The F-spot seems to be going this way at the moment - as of 0.4 the export to services is being moved to addins.
Thanks for the comments, all!
@Al Billings: I'm not sure I've seen an extension quite like People, but the key to Flock is the interoperability and integration of all the features. Rather than disparate extensions, all the elements work together. Send articles from your feed reader to the blog editor instantly, drag'n'drop photos from the Mediabar to your friends in the People sidebar to share. Send to your clipboard, your favorites, or the blog editor from right-click...it all works together with simple drag'n'drop as well as more advanced options.
@Cristobal: Our localization teams (folks just like you who want to see Flock in other languages) are hard at work making several localized versions of the 0.9 series, including a Spanish version. See my next note in regards to dailymotion..
@Forseti: You've totally got the right idea. We try to choose the best services for Flock based on audience size, brand compatibility, growth and other metrics, but there's no way we can ever integrate everyone's favorite service. We will be spending significant time in the coming months enhancing our developer resources to make it much easier for independent programmers to integrate at "mount points", as you put it.
Flock on!
Evan Hamilton
Community Ambassador
evan at flock dot com
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blog.evanhamilton.com
So EXCITED for 1.0!! And love the new integration of Facebook...brilliant strategic move with all the buzz and activity going on with Facebook at the moment.
@Al Billings - In addition to Evan's response, I might add a couple things that stand out to me over using Firefox with extensions. 1.) One of the best RSS-Readers ever completely integrated into the browser with organization and display controls easily discoverable and available, which is much better than the Live Bookmarks of Firefox. 2.) A pristine and well-designed user interface. Few FF themes can even touch the beauty and minimalist design of the Flock UI..further the UI has been specifically designed to make finding services (discoverability) even easier. 3.) Techies know extensions and all the many web 2.0 services, but the average user does not and Flock brings a non-tech user into the web 2.0 environment with ease by offering the most popular web services available at launch. 4)There's community here...we're engaged in the product as well as the concept. The 1.0 version that will soon launch has been significantly influenced by the feedback of community users. Flock connects users to each other.
Don't be afraid to ask questions, the Flock team will always give you straight-forward answers and the community will likely chime in as well. Whether its bad or good, it will always benefit in making the social browser better.
I've happily been an evangelist for 1.5 years and it is a product, company, team and community that I really believe in.
I'm not saying that existing extensions do everything that Flock does (or even most). I'm asking why it is necessary to have an entirely new browser? Beautiful extensions that work together could be written to do what Flock does and run within Firefox. They could even be made by the Flock team. Why make an entirely new browser instead of doing that? What do you get by doing so instead of putting the same amount of work into really good extension and theme creation?
One of the advantages of doing it by way of extensions is that you could leverage the existing Firefox community instead of having to convince people to install an entirely new browser (which renders pages using the same platform as Firefox) to get the coolness.
Hi Evan,
Any chance that Flock will release a fix to support gspace in version 0.9x prior to 1.0 release?
Thanks,
Rasterbator
@Al Billings: It's probably hard to believe as you're an advanced user, but only approximately 10% of Firefox users actually use extensions...so creating a suite of extensions would be unlikely to catch on. Furthermore, the full integration that Flock has involves a lot more work than an extension developer could support. Instead of trying to hack things together, Flock chose to form a team that would present a new take on the browser, including full support and timely, often user-driven enhancements.
We definitely have an additional challenge to get folks to download Flock instead of an extension, but we firmly believe that there is a larger group of folks than that 10% that want to try a browser fully optimized for their social browsing experience.
@rasterbator: What kind of integration are you thinking of? Through the uploader?
Evan Hamilton
Community Ambassador
evan at flock dot com
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blog.evanhamilton.com
Well, according to gspace, Flock is supported only up through version 0.8
Unless you know otherwise, and can direct me on how to install/hack it to work.
Thanks,
Rasterbator
Hey Rasterbator,
Ah, didn't realize that gspace was an extension. It's up to the extension developer to update gspace for Flock 1.0 (if they would like assistance, they can contact me at the address below). However, you may be able to get it to work by opening the xpi file (just right-click the install button to download manually) and changing the maxVers of the extension to 1.0. Be sure to back up your Flock profile before doing this though, it's possible it will not work correctly.
Flock on,
Evan Hamilton
Community Ambassador
evan at flock dot com
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blog.evanhamilton.com
There is also an other advantage of having Flock as a separate browser: it doesn't break you Firefox experience.
Suppose we release Flock as an extension instead of a web browser: that would be a huge extension that would completely disrupt your Firefox installation. With a separate web browser, you can install Flock and still have your good old Firefox untouched.
I moved from FF to Flock permanently a few months ago, I'm in my flickr and youtube accounts constantly through out the day, and its just nowhere near as comfortable in Firefox with extensions as it is Flock.
Congratulations on the forthcoming 1.0 release. You've certainly created a sturdy browser to cater for us. <3 you! xP
I came across flock I think close to when the first release to the public and have used it pretty exclusively because of its features over FF. Although I can appreciate all of the extensions that are available for FF, I think I tend to agree that most users, including myself, would not like to go out and look for extensions for what they want to add to functionality of their browser. If I came across one by chance, sure.. but most people just want to use their browser as is, so I completely stand behind how the Flock team has approached this. :applauds:
To be honest, what has made me a dedicated Flock user is its blogging/photo sharing features. Mostly the photosharing because it seems Flock won't work with my vox blog yet.. (HINT HINT...) In any case, the integration with photobucket and flickr are a GREAT idea.. for someone like me that has been blogging with photos almost daily.
Just a thank you to the Flock team! keep up the great work! WOOT!
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I tried flock some time ago now and it was great for all of about 1 day. The social networking tools we are using now shouldn't be crunched into a browser as it were- there's simply too much information to collate.
Take the idea that my web gardening consists of about 5 main things: Flickr, Bloglines, Delicious, Youtube, 9rules network and a few smaller tools. I've collated all that on my blog but trying to manage all the information I read into one browser just seems to heavy handed. It's virtually impossible to keep on top of the 20 blogs I read and much prefer to visit the site to read the information presented- as the author intended it to be. I dont get the need to constantly manage all your online presence into a single window/ browser? What happened to visiting sites?
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